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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Sorry - I HATE Them! Reply with quote

..and I've had a custom 22 wide'fat w/birds, a Hollowbody II in Black Cherry and I foolishly bought a Santana for way too much.

I love how they look, but they don't cut through the band sonically, they do not have the *sparkle* I find in other guitars.

Kind of like a really pretty girl with no personality or brains - fun to romp on for about 5 minutes and then I'm outta there. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Sorry - I HATE Them! Reply with quote

Strat God wrote:
..and I've had a custom 22 wide'fat w/birds, a Hollowbody II in Black Cherry and I foolishly bought a Santana for way too much.

I love how they look, but they don't cut through the band sonically, they do not have the *sparkle* I find in other guitars.

Kind of like a really pretty girl with no personality or brains - fun to romp on for about 5 minutes and then I'm outta there. Embarassed


That's exactly what I heard too. Shocked

There are 2 positions out of 5 that work. Shocked Shocked

And if that doesn't convince, what about a Marshall Stack?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did someone say "Marshall Stack?"....
How 'bout TWO of em...........
Cool Cool Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Marshall stack's the back up for when the other one quits working? Wink Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've owned 5 of them, I currently have only one... and I'll both agree and disagree. The CU22's I have owned, I should have kept. Very comfy to play and I liked the Dragon pickups.

My CU24 was a beaut but I never liked those silly winged tuners and for whatever reason I kept getting lost on a 24 fret board. Experience ( meaning lack of) seemed to somehow find me a whole step off on several occasions when I was playing in the upper regions.

I had that P90 rosewood McCarty that had to be one of the nicest looking guitars I have ever seen, but I thought it sounded like a mud bog.

Still have my HB1 with a piezo. I can't quite figger her out.

Now I don't buy humbucker guitars looking for sparkle, that's what Fenders are for. Smile And I've always thought coil splitting was a poor sub for a single coil.

I think what happens here is we look for our PRS guitars to do what Fenders and Gibsons do, but they're an animal all of their own. I think my biggest issue that I am running into is that they are so pretty I'm afraid to really tear into them like I do my other guitars. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strat God. Ooooh nice Charvel baby! Many American greenbacks there! Cool

Herb, are both red lights on? I can't tell which one is the spare either. Laughing

AC, I shouldn't comment on something I haven't done, but some other experience tells me that Seymour Duncan, Slash's buddy and tonemaker would have a set of no-mud Alnico 2's for you, that would change the way "WE" feel about humbuckers. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good thread.... I have been looking at PRSs for sometime now, having once rejected the necks as too fat for my tastes. But like others here have said, they look so good I kept looking... I played two nice red flames in Orlando's Sam Ash and fell in love with both of them, but did not turn them up or really jam with them, and they were too expensive to just buy one because they looked good...

I used to listen to Santana a lot, but when he changed to PRSs I felt he lost his grit and mojo... His tone has sounded the same to me for a long time, doesn't seem to have any personality, and I've heard other good players whose PRSs did the same for them....

On the other hand, some people use them exclusively and have great sounds... I like the sounds from the old group Collective Soul for instance, and they claimed that at times PRSs were all they used....I like a lot of Red Hot C. Peppers' guitar sounds and Navarro used one....Johnny Hiland does a PRS demo and claims the PRSs are the cat's meow, but I didn't get that from the sounds he made...

It's nice to see some of you feel the same way.... I love Strats so much I would never miss having a PRS if they didn't look so good, but now I know I won't miss having one, thanks to yoos guys and girls....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa, I think that PRS got their electronic scheme all wrong. I don't want to go there. They can be fixed, it's up to their owners.

I think that an HH Tele (which offends Tele purists) or an HH Strat (which offends Strat purists) if used with the right switching combinations, could fill that need or gap, or tone, whatever. I wouldn't be offended, I like my Tele, but I don't care what the HH version is called. Maybe it should have got another name or shape. Then it probably wouldn't sell?

This 7-sound thing here that I got, should knock off a PRS, I wouldn't hesitate to try and it's only Basswood with a small bridge, no big block and no sustain ridge! Of course the pickups & wiring are not Lace. Imagine what a real Stat would do, Alder-bodied and add a Wilkinson for example?




There's always Les Pauls and SG's, particularly if you get a used one, going on 10 years, or older. Seen Schecter or a neck-through-body Charvel? Oh nevemind, the Charvel has Floyd Rose, which is wasted on Wolfgangs too. But Carvin is quite the machine, probably has all the good stuff down pat. Carvin just could be end-of-story? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to own all of these, once:
Santana II
Santana III
McCarty Rosewood
Custom 22 Soapbar w/ P90s

They are beautiful guitars indeed; great necks! I bought Santanas b/c I admire Carlos. McCarty was very versatile. Custom 22 had the best, overall tone - But, then the pickups were made by Seymour Duncan.

Honestly, I don't really miss them. In a way, I went through my PRS phase. I may buy them again to have as a collection.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what's so wrong with a little romping now and then, eh?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Sorry - I HATE Them! Reply with quote

Strat God wrote:
Kind of like a really pretty girl with no personality or brains - fun to romp on for about 5 minutes and then I'm outta there. Embarassed


That 5 minutes includes the foreplay, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think PRS is highly overrated. They're very high-end, but they're nothing a good Gibson could do.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jericho-79 wrote:
I think PRS is highly overrated. They're very high-end, but they're nothing a good Gibson could do.



Now, I wouldn't say that!

As far as build quality, Gibson can't even come close to a PRS in finish, fit and overall quality. And before any of you high end Gibby custom shop owners start getting pissed, I'm refering to the average, off the shelf Gibby.

However when it comes to tone, I'll take the Gibson ANYDAY!
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